Brahmin | 1. The samana Gotama does not salute brahmins who are old. |
Buddha | There is no one in the world of devas or humans to whom a Tathāgata should stand up or salute. |
Brahmin | 2. Master Gotama lacks taste (arasarūpa) |
Buddha | The Buddha has cut off tastes for forms,
sounds and other things that can be handled. |
Brahmin | 3. Gotama lacks property. |
Buddha | This is so because the Tathāgata has abandoned all household things. |
Brahmin | 4. Gotama affirms the theory of Inaction |
Buddha | The Buddha refrains from action relating to misconduct in deed, word and thought; he proclaims inaction relating to all evil conditions. |
Brahmin | 5. Gotama is an annihilationist. |
Buddha | The Buddha annihilates all lust, hatred and infatuation. It is in this way that he is an annihilationist, not in the way Brahmins think. |
Brahmin | 6. Gotama is an ascetic. | |
Buddha | I support mortification only for evil and sinful things, unlike other ascetics given to bodily mortification. |
Brahmin | 7. Gotama does not believe in rebirth (apagabba). |
Buddha | The Tathāgata has abandoned renewed existence. But he sees other beings moving along according to their kamma. |
Then the Buddha goes into a long disquisition on how he achieved enlightenment. After this
Brahmin becomes a lay follower of the Buddha.
Mahanama | How does a man become a lay disciple ? |
Buddha | By taking refuge in the Buddha Dhamma and Sangha. |
Mahanama | How is one virtuous ? |
Buddha | By following the five precepts. |
Mahanama | How does one promote ones welfare not that of another ? . |
Buddha | By achieving faith, virtue, renunciation, sight of bhikkhus, hearing and understanding Dhamma for his own self not encompassing others. | . |
Mahanama | How does one promotes ones and others welfare. |
Buddha | Doing the same as in previous question and encompassing others as well. |